#Wasp wc

[eggfeather]

wasp

[bonefall]

Thoughts on Wasp? I like the idea of cats joining that turn out that the Clans aren’t great… but also it feels… weird? Like it seems like another “lazy cat bad” on some levels. I don’t mind him not joining the Clans but these “outsider learns they’re not fit for the Clans” things always give me a pause from the Erins. Also interested in how you would handle him!

Moonkitti's video on him is really well worded, if you haven't seen it yet. I do think he's different from the way that other books tend to portray outsiders in that they are saying that he was driven away by the xenophobia of the Clans... but.

They still make him extremely disinterested in Clan life while he's in ThunderClan. I think that was a massive blunder to write, if the thing they're trying to say is "XENOPHOBIA PREVENTS OTHERWISE ENTHUSIASTIC MIGRATION"

It would have hit harder if it was Wafflepaw who tried to run to RiverClan, got assaulted, and then didn't want to be a Clan cat anymore.

Wafflepaw WANTS to be a warrior. Wasp did not. It reads more like Wasp getting hate crime'd was a "last straw" more than THE reason why he won't stay.

That's where you're getting that vibe they're saying "lazy cat bad," imo. It's a bit different from usual, but it still seems like the narrative is saying that Wasp really didn't belong here anyway.

(no, Nightheart's moment where he looks at the camera and says "he could have been fine!" doesn't change that they showed, in their text, with the actions they wrote, that Wasp was not enjoying being part of the Clans anyway. If that was their intended thesis, their writing was sloppy.)

It feels especially weird that Bee didn't go with Frostpaw. Bee was the character with a lot more setup and that strange dream. A lot of people were confusing Bee and Wasp when the book first came out and I don't blame them.

Most importantly, you can't talk about Wasp without also mentioning one of THE worst lines I think has ever been written into a Warrior Cats book. The part where tigerHeartstar says, "Those cats who just committed a hate crime were perfectly good people before the evil dictator took over. If we kill the evil dictator, I'm sure they'll CHANGE BACK"

I'm still REELING. Fuck you MEAAAN "CHANGE BACK????" CHANGE BACK? LIKE BEING A BIGOT IS UNCOMFORTABLE SHOES???

CHANGE BACK... me bringing my evil dollars up to the villain store and exchanging it for racism coins... change back...

So when I get around to it, I'm going to evaluate if Wasp is even actually necessary in the form he's in. BB is already about xenophobia and bigotry and the harm it does. Frostpaw has no shortage of examples to witness what Thistle Law is, and what it does to those excluded from Clan Culture.

When I first made my Family Tree for RiverClan, I actually ended up making Splashstar's MOM, Havenpelt, an ex-rogue. I think seeing him order a hate crime against his own mother would be a LOT more impactful here, actually.

What Frostpaw DOES need is allies and friends. I'm already starting by expanding her little "DND Party," a word I'm using to affectionately refer to some cats who will be following her home from her pilgrimage to the Park. 99% chance that Nightheart is going to become a permanent member of this party, joining RiverClan at the end of ASC. Waffle will be another. She'll probably also pick up a Tribe cat.

Wasp will be on this party, but I won't decide what happens to them until I see what that last book has in store. Who knows, he might come back (though I hope not, run as far away from these ghouls as possible Wasp!!)

[windfur]

just had the thought but what if the erins pull out a wildcard and it’s actually wasp who’s meant to be leader. it’d be kinda funny because imagine being apart of riverclan and you chased him out and beat his ass but then he comes back and now he’s your leader because god actually wanted him to be your leader all along. but that’s unlikely because the erins love xenophobia

[daily-whistlepaw]

daily whistlepaw until ni becomes PoV day 1039

a lovely anon suggested Whis finding Frostpaw, Nightheart, Waffle and Wasp when they arrive at the gathering

[shallowbreeze]

Wasp

Wasp is a brown tom.

for @chimeraas

[rosemist50]

Designs for new cats in A Starless Clan: Thunder! They're all Cats of the Park. First is Rook and Scruff, Riverstar's No. 1 fan and an old guy that's kinda cool actually. Next is Wafflepaw!!! And... Wasp? The two that Frostpaw and Nightheart took back home. After is Bee, Frostpaw's therapist, and Molly, a cat with "a clever sense of humor". Then Chalk and Firefly, both ex-kittypets, implied to be mates but could also be taken platonically which is cool. Firefly's tag is meant to be that Minecraft firefly that was never added that was just two pixels. Firefly was pregnant and said she'd name her kits Frost and Night, so I just threw them in there too, why not. Then is Lark and Marlow, and Lark's kits Weevil and Peg.

⚠️ BIG spoilers under the cut (and in the tags): ⚠️

Finally here are four she-cats that had minor design changes relating to the plot, two aren't from the book but I thought I'd just put them in anyway. These design changes were much too minor for me to justify making whole new fullbodies, so headshots it is 👍 We got Squirrelstar (flight), Sparrowstar (Fur), and Nightstar (RC) for new/confirmed leaders, and Curlfeather with the rare honor of being a Dark Forest cat AND a woman. I think it's just the absolute coolest that Sparrowstar and Owlstar are siblings and became leaders of different clans, not only leaders but both are the 2nd leaders of their clans. You can just feel the potential!!!!

[asc-rewrite]

Wait. Wasp was a guy this entire time.

i'm going insane. like i literally could've sworn that she was a molly sighhhh genderfluid afab wasp it is then :3

[clanslist]

[onlyhereforpdfs]

small spoiler for asc wind excerpt

combined with the history lesson that waffle and wasp got during the gathering and their knowledge of riverstar, i really hope one of them becomes a clan historian

if this doesnt happen, at the very LEAST, i hope both dont fall under the curse of "background character in a warriors book"

[gougarpaw]

"Me too. I want to learn to hunt and fight for real! I want to live in the wild and catch my own prey and protect my Clanmates."

Wasp is a brown tom.

[goatpaste]

OC-Tober Day 9: Relationships

A variety of my lil fagettes! my cutie sweetie pies and their partners or exs or family and whatever :3

[Commission Prices][Etsy][Buy me a Kofi]

[brightclansstory]

Moon 28

CW: ANIMAL DEATH

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[exocynraku]

wafflepaw, wasp

[hazardouscattboy]

Intersex + genderfluid + angled aroace Wasp, Sun Shadow, and Splashtail? Maybe also Bristlefrost if you can!^^

[jomadis]

Okay I haven't finished Wind yet, but I still have to make my silly prediction:

I'm currently on team Froststar (Frostpaw becoming leader), BUT-- I absolutely wouldn't doubt either Wafflepaw or Wasp becoming RiverClan's new leader. With everything about returning to Riverstar's version of RC, the cats from the park are the perfect way to do so.

Will it end up as Mothwing/Mothstar? Probably. But I have a silly gut feeling that it'll be Wafflepaw or Wasp

[pinestripe37]

Names for the current kits and apprentices!

Frostlight Mistmorning Grayshine (All the triplets and their best friend Whis have a matching light theme) Rapidbrook Floatcloud (Fognose's little sister and apprentice!) Troutsplash (The name just works but it's also sad.. he has to wrestle with not just looking like his brother but being intentionally or coincidentally named after him. But Trout is a different cat than Splash and he and his clan will come to accept this.)

Whistledawn (I love her kindness. She gets a special name and also to match with her riverclan friends' special names.) Leafdrizzle Grassberry Branchfrost (I love Whistlepaw's adorable baby siblings and I really like these names for them.) Stripereed Brookstarling

Wafflesong Waspflight (I know he left but that's not the end of his story, at least not in the ideas I have planned) Bristlesedge Stemstripe Graypuddle

Birchflight Firbristle Streamripple Whisperpool Bloomshadow (I love Cinnamon's kits, Stream has a bubbly personality and Whisper is a thoughtful kitten who wants to be medicine cat and they're all a really nice family.)

Beetlespot Beestripe Ridgeflicker Duskflow